Reconnecting for the first time since the Covi-19 pandemic began, Sharon Salzberg and Robert Thurman discuss her book “Real Change” and how the tools of mindfulness skill training, Buddhist philosophy and the teachings of the Dalai Lama have influenced them over the years.

Opening with stories from the “Peacemaking: The Power of Nonviolence” Conference held in San Francisco in 1997, Sharon details how her time with grassroots activists, front-line health care providers, students, and labor organizers practicing meditation have inspired, informed, and invigorated her.

This podcast includes discussions of: bell hook’s perspective on social action and the value of creativity and art in creating change, how mindfulness practice can lead one to the tool of meditation and to the Buddhist Inner Sciences of mind transformation, and how individuals living the reality of the teachings of compassion and equanimity can be found all around us.

This episode was recorded during the live online event “Real Change: Covid, Climate Reality, and the New Normal“, September, 7th, 2020.